don't get me wrong, this forum currently has plenty of interesting discussions and posters, but, for those of you who weren't on the old jwd board in the early-to-mid-00s, man...i'm sorry but you really missed out on the glory years of this forum.
it was really a special, unique place then.
again, not dissing the current, but, that huge exciting wave of ex-jw internet activity that occurred in the early part of this century seems to have leveled off.
The true intellectuals of the JW's, like our very own, revered Leolaia ,for example. (who is absent from here at present), they all left years ago.
Here's my all-time favorite of hers. Genius!!
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/99142/1/Watchtower-History-in-Haiku
don't get me wrong, this forum currently has plenty of interesting discussions and posters, but, for those of you who weren't on the old jwd board in the early-to-mid-00s, man...i'm sorry but you really missed out on the glory years of this forum.
it was really a special, unique place then.
again, not dissing the current, but, that huge exciting wave of ex-jw internet activity that occurred in the early part of this century seems to have leveled off.
ah, i don't think you're a numptie for sticking around. I wish that more had.
leaving the witnesses was for me a result of asking myself distubing questions, which infomed me " mike its not what you think, its how you think" and as a result iam what was a dub but is a dub no more .so here i am hete today !!.
.
.
Welcome. It's a hell of a wonderful thing to realize, it's not you, it's them. In the case of the WTS, it REALLY is them!
don't get me wrong, this forum currently has plenty of interesting discussions and posters, but, for those of you who weren't on the old jwd board in the early-to-mid-00s, man...i'm sorry but you really missed out on the glory years of this forum.
it was really a special, unique place then.
again, not dissing the current, but, that huge exciting wave of ex-jw internet activity that occurred in the early part of this century seems to have leveled off.
Don't get me wrong, this forum currently has plenty of interesting discussions and posters, but, for those of you who weren't on the old JWD board in the early-to-mid-00s, man...I'm sorry but you really missed out on the glory years of this forum. It was really a special, unique place then. Again, not dissing the current, but, that huge exciting wave of ex-JW internet activity that occurred in the early part of this century seems to have leveled off. I guess it's just a natural progression, but, I miss it.
If you weren't here then, go back a few years on the active topics, to around 2002-2005. So, so, so many interesting posts and posters. Lots of really intelligent and articulate people on here back then.
just popped in i heard about lady lee leaving and wanted to say bye but i guess they closed that thread .
any old timers still around ?.
I was here, under a different name tho;)
I do remember you. We need more of the old-timers back! AlanF, JT, Abaddon, Narkissos, (many more whose names are escaping me right now)...I miss the glory days (mid 00s) of this forum!
this information is from a friends co visit.
enjoy.. jw.org faq's.
do you feel that you are the only people who will be saved?00:0000:00. no.
Do You Feel That You Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved?
No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren't Jehovah's Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation. The Bible explains that in God's promised new world, ""there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous."" (Acts 24:15) Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve God, and they too will gain salvation.
Bah. Typical wince-inducing WTS Doublespeak. If a person asks this question, they aren't talking about the dead, they're talking about the living. So the first part of the "answer" doesn't address the question at all.
The second part of the answer could be accurately rephrased as (if you understand what they mean exactly by "serve God") 'persons alive now who are JWs or who join JWs between now and Armageddon will be saved'. So yes, they DO feel that they are the only people who will be saved. And the "No" at the beginning of their "answer" is a bald-faced lie.
WTS, you make me ill.
i thought it was time for a formal introduction.
i've lurked here for literally years, sometimes posting sometimes not.
but i've never told my story and now seems as good a time as any.
Great story, thanks 4 sharing.
wow, just saw this on the news.
truly devastating.. sorry i have no words to offer anyone other than that we're thinking of anyone who'd been affected..
The tens of minutes long period of sheer terror that those who died must have experienced is what gets me.
Hortensia the fifth photo is just jaw-dropping.
if you grow up speaking english and you move to mexico you don't automatically speak spanish, know customs, understand currency, possess skills.
for self-support or have any special insight into latino mindset.. .
why would you expect leaving jehovah's witnesses would leave you any less ill-equipped to navigate the real world?.
6.How do you actually FEEL? Do you feel at all? Or, is there a vague sense of doom floating around you because you once KNEW EVERYTHING and it was ALL TRUE? Absolute thinking is a drug. Just like any street drug. You will have withdrawl. Expect it.
Every time I see a Climate Change doom/gloom headline, I'm right back to JW mentality: humanity is doomed without divine intervention. Only of course now I'm not expecting any divine intervention.
So what do i do? You know, the climate change stuff IS pretty scary! I haven't learned yet how to effectively deal with the reality that we humans may very well indeed be doing ourselves in with our addiction to activities that are significantly altering the composition of our atmosphere.
How do I accept this possible reality and yet not be paralyzed by fear and hopelessness? Climate Change is just one of many that gets me every time. By nature I'm a fearful person, and its fearfulness that made me such a easy fish for the JWs to reel in.
It's interesting to see how apocalypticism is becoming part of popular culture. A headline from (satirical news website) The Onion from a few months ago: "Future warlord of what was once Nebraska born in Omaha hospital".
judging by the titles/themes of the talks , dramas ,new releases ,tracts,brochures , etc,.i dont think their was anything that would enthuse any witness to renewed activity.on the contrary i think it would demoralize you .their was nothing their to inspire a new convert let alone one who has been in for decades to keep on in service to this organization.
for arguments sake ,i was baptised in 1961 if i was still in , at this convention ,i would be asking ,when is the great tribulatin to begin?
who is the king of the north ?
Let's face it - a lot of JWs LIKE being JWs. For this reason alone, JWism has plenty of years left ahead of it. But I can't even imagine what torture it is to be raised in it these days. As a previous poster alluded, their claim to fame for decades has been distributing printed information from door to door. But the magazines have become a boring, out-of-touch, silly, insider-jargon-filled, half-hearted shadow of their former glory. It's hard to imagine anyone, at least in the west, being taken in by any of the current literature. I'm sure there's still the occasional convert, but for the most part, go to any KH and try to find anyone under 40 that actually converted to JWism. Good luck. They aren't there.
